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Post by finkle on May 16, 2009 21:18:48 GMT -6
I've been thinking about this for a while....not exactly sure how it'd work, BUT....
I think it'd be fun to have an 8-12 team league that was multi-sport. Basically, you'd have a GM for a city and you'd have Baseball, Basketball and Football teams.
It'd be roto-style and you could have a basketball/football 2 round draft.
I haven't thought through all of the stat categories or even roster sizes. At this point, this really is just an idea. It sounds fun, though...
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Post by fatmenace on May 16, 2009 21:23:48 GMT -6
Interesting. When you say GM for a city, do you mean we only get to draft players from that city?
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Post by finkle on May 16, 2009 22:21:57 GMT -6
no....i mean rather than have a fantasy team name, you'd be the GM for sports for, say dallas.
the rest would be like a crazy huge fantasy league.
i did some of it on paper. you'd start out with one huge draft - basketball, baseball and football players all in one big draft.
roto scoring - 8 categories per sport: Baseball - Wins, Saves, K, ERA, BA, HR, RBI, SB Football - Pass Yd, Rush Yd, Rec Yd, TD (any), Kicker (either points or FG), Tackles, Sacks, INT Basketball - Pts, Asst, Reb, Steal, 3pt, FG%, FT%, Blocks
Lineups for each (these are just ideas): Baseball - 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, C, 3 OF, 2 FLEX.... 5 SP, 3 RP (total of 18 players) Football - 2 QB, 3 RB, 4 WR, 2 K, 2 DL, 3 LB, 2 DB (total 18 players) Basketball - 3 PG, 3 SG, 3 SF, 3 PF, 3 C, 3 FLEX (total 18 players)
That's 54 starters. You'd need some number of bench players.
The draft would be crazy, and the league would have a champ for each sport, but the "real" championship would be the total champ for the entire year.
The first full season would be 2010, but we could actually do things this year if we had baseball start at the All-Star break.
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Post by finkle on May 16, 2009 22:40:23 GMT -6
the weakness that i see right now is that i THINK it favors basketball players followed by baseball players.
lebron james would impact 8 categories. albert pujols would only impact 4 categories. meanwhile, tom brady would really only impact 2.
i suppose you could adjust it so that the sports are not all equal with 8 roto categories each, and try to make it so that each position has similar value.
i dunno.
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Post by finkle on May 16, 2009 22:50:14 GMT -6
hmm...another thought....it might not necessarily be a weakness. while lebron has a hand in 8 categories, he's also one of 18 starters on a team that has the same impact, whereas brady is one of only two
the idea of having pujols, adrian peterson and kobe in one draft intrigues me. trades here could be awesome, too.
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Post by fatmenace on May 16, 2009 23:06:37 GMT -6
Very intriguing, although the number of starters is a lot. I'm gonna poke around on Google and see if anything like this exists and if there's a template for it.
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Post by red on May 16, 2009 23:43:34 GMT -6
Interesting concept. I think the roster number for basketball maybe to big. Especially with how many injuries happen in a season. For those of us that are weak in baseball this would be a real challenge.
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Post by gk on May 16, 2009 23:52:22 GMT -6
I've thought about something like this before. Not the logistics, but I always thought it'd be cool to be able to trade Adrian Peterson for Albert Pujols (sucker!!!!).
Chad let us know how your googling goes.
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Post by gk on May 17, 2009 7:05:59 GMT -6
If we do do this (and I think I do want to) we might want to ease ourselves into it. Maybe chop off a couple categories and a couple positions per sport. For example, I don't think we need defensive players in football. We could likewise chop off a RP and Flex position in baseball. Just trying to make things more manageable.
Scorekeeping would probably be the toughest obstacle to overcome. Would we have to do it by hand?
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Post by fatmenace on May 17, 2009 8:11:11 GMT -6
I've found a few things online. I'll post them later today when I have time. I agree with Krall, let's get the roster downsized.
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Post by john on May 17, 2009 8:40:51 GMT -6
alrighty... i'm not home now, but have some ideas about paring it down.
what if we shot for a 10:6 - starters:categories?
Football 2 QB, 2 RB, 4 WR, 2 TE PassY; PassTD; RushY; RushTD; RecY; RushTD
Basketball 2 PG, 2 SG, 2 SF, 2 PF, 2 C Pts; Reb; Asst; Stl; Blk; FT%
Baseball - having a hard time getting this to 10, so here i sit at 12. 1B, 2B, SS, 3B, C, OF, OF, OF, SP, SP, SP, SP BA; HR; RBI; SB; WHIP; ERA
Geoff - What do you suggest for baseball? Try to get to the 10/6. Should we eliminate pitchers? What if we only had room to start 2 on any given day? Are WHIP and ERA the way to go?
I've got a bunch of grading to do today, but I'll give you and Chad a call sometime.
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Post by john on May 17, 2009 8:43:18 GMT -6
to answer geoff's question about scoring....
we'd just do a yahoo league for basketball and baseball, since they do roto. easy enough.
for football, i'm not sure. if yahoo doesn't do roto scoring for FB (and can't say that i've ever seen it), we'd have to do it on excel, though it shouldn't be that difficult.
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Post by john on May 17, 2009 9:11:05 GMT -6
one last thought.... a possibility is just averaging each sports roto scores and then adding the total. this would allow baseball to have more categories than football, for example. the next goal would be to see what the best way is to have relative value equilibrium between the sports. my problem right now is in football. Pass Yds and Pass TD account for 1/3 of the roto points. since each team starts 2 QB, each QB spot accounts for 1/6 of roto value. (in basketball, with 10 starters each helping in every category, a basketball player has 1/10 roto value) then there are the receivers. i've got 4 starting plus 2 TE. that's 6 competing for 1/3 of the points (Rec Yds and Rec TD). factor in that your RB also get receiving yards/td and the value of a WR/TE goes from 1/18 to probably closer to 1/20. that means WR have very little value here. how can we fix this? i'm not quite sure.... BUT... what if we were to do something like this: Football - 2QB, 2RB, 2WR, 1TE Pass TD, Pass Yd, Rush TD, Rush YD, Rec TD, Rec YD, Receptions That puts each player somewhere in the 1/6 to 1/8 Basketball - PG, SG, PF, SF, C, 2 Flex That puts each basketball player right at 1/7 Baseball - NO IDEA!! I'll have to look at that later, but, Geoff!!! HELP!!!!!
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Post by john on May 17, 2009 9:21:12 GMT -6
easy baseball solution: 8 position players....no pitchers
that gives each baseball player a value of 1/8
so your football players have a 1/6 to 1/8 (with what i would consider an acceptable difference -- QB valued more...then RB...then WR)
basketball players have a value of 1/7
baseball players have a value of 1/8
we average each city's roto score for each sport and then add them for the champ!
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Post by gk on May 17, 2009 10:41:48 GMT -6
Some baseball leagues combing 2B/SS and 1B/3B positions. Yahoo allows for that (called "middle infielder" and "corner infielder"). That would chop down a couple right there. But the no-pitching idea is good too, at least initially.
Also, I'm not sure there's a need for the TE position. We could just make it 2WR/TE.
Another consideration would be how often we change the rosters. With Football it's not bad. But basketball and baseball are difficult to manage on a daily basis.
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