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Post by fatmenace on Aug 19, 2009 22:58:51 GMT -6
I thought she was an partisan hack when she was protesting Bush, but now that she's also going to go against Obama and the war, she might not be as partisan as I thought.
I doubt she gets the same support now from her liberal friends as she did when it was against Bush, but we'll see...
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Post by fatmenace on Aug 19, 2009 23:16:34 GMT -6
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Post by gk on Aug 20, 2009 7:51:06 GMT -6
Going back to my Afghanistan post a couple months ago: we still appear totally f*cked. Even if you support Just War and consider this to be one of them, I think you have to acknowledge that there is basically no way out and virtually no path to "victory" - whatever that might be.
Some people compared Iraq to Vietnam (ok, me). But Afghanistan might be more appropriate. And like Nixon, Obama (only time you'll ever see those four words strung together consecutively) is escalating. It remains to be seen whether Obama goes "all in" like Nixon did.
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Post by "Redneck" Johnson on Aug 20, 2009 17:01:58 GMT -6
Depends what you mean- Nixon got in office and started some heavy bombing. And after that failed he started withdrawing troops and negotiating the settlement.
LBJ's the one that really escalated the war. I've always wondered how involved with the Vietnam War the country would have been if Kennedy was not killed.
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Post by grubbi on Aug 20, 2009 18:43:16 GMT -6
Afghanistan is a no win...has been...always will be. About the only way to"win" is to nuke it all and then fill the vacuum that's left.
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Post by fatmenace on Aug 20, 2009 18:55:13 GMT -6
There's another option, and that's bring all the troops home from the middle east immediately.
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Post by fatmenace on Aug 21, 2009 21:12:18 GMT -6
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