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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 7:12:15 GMT -6
Is it a surprise that it's a Paul bloodline leading the charge against this bill? Rand is about to find out how lonely of an existence his dad had for 30 years.
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 7:13:07 GMT -6
61 senators betrayed you, me, and their oath to The Constitution today. We are now officially a police state. Their names are as follows:
Ayotte (R-NH) Barrasso (R-WY) Blunt (R-MO) ... Boozman (R-AR) Brown (R-MA) Burr (R-NC) Casey (D-PA) Chambliss (R-GA) Coats (R-IN) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Collins (R-ME) Conrad (D-ND) Corker (R-TN) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Enzi (R-WY) Graham (R-SC) Grassley (R-IA) Hagan (D-NC) Hatch (R-UT) Heller (R-NV) Hoeven (R-ND) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Inouye (D-HI) Isakson (R-GA) Johanns (R-NE) Johnson (R-WI) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Landrieu (D-LA) Lee (R-UT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lugar (R-IN) Manchin (D-WV) McCain (R-AZ) McCaskill (D-MO) McConnell (R-KY) Menendez (D-NJ) Moran (R-KS) Nelson (D-NE) Portman (R-OH) Pryor (D-AR) Reed (D-RI) Risch (R-ID) Roberts (R-KS) Rubio (R-FL) Sessions (R-AL) Shaheen (D-NH) Shelby (R-AL) Snowe (R-ME) Stabenow (D-MI) Thune (R-SD) Toomey (R-PA) Vitter (R-LA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wicker (R-MS)
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Post by gk on Dec 1, 2011 7:57:48 GMT -6
anyone following sections 1031 and 1032? this is literally the make or break point for our nation. it'll be interesting to see if obama really vetoes it, and if he does if the senate will override him. Yeah, I was following it elsewhere ( ahem). This is a terrible, terrible bill. Everyone on that list of senators should be voted out immediately. (Thankfully, my two senators were not on that list).
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Post by gk on Dec 1, 2011 8:05:03 GMT -6
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 8:05:46 GMT -6
Thanks for the link.
My two Senators made the list!
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 8:23:20 GMT -6
The committee hearings on it were done it secret. Amazing.
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Post by gk on Dec 1, 2011 14:09:27 GMT -6
By the way, thinking entirely politically (see: title of the thread), an Obama veto would be a solid standing double election-wise.
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 14:40:21 GMT -6
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Post by gk on Dec 1, 2011 14:49:16 GMT -6
Yeah I read the Greenwald take on it as well. I dunno, might be a good "hey remember how you hate congress? lookee what I did!" moment. Like I said, not a home run, but a standing double. OK maybe a bunt single.
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 15:04:52 GMT -6
Ron Paul ad takes on Newt.
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Post by gk on Dec 1, 2011 19:57:09 GMT -6
Ron Paul ad takes on Newt. For the life of me I can't understand this Newt Gingrich thing. If people don't like Romney because he's "changed his views" - well, at least Romney did it for political reasons. Newt straight up took cash to change his views. If people don't like Herman Cain because he's a bit of a ladies man, Gingrich is married to his third wife, that he cheated on his second wife with. If people don't like Romney because he's wealthy, Gingrich is wealthy solely because he's a politician. Can someone please explain his appeal to me?
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 21:27:14 GMT -6
The only thing I can think of is that he was the leader of the republican congress from 1994. Old memories of him battling Clinton? Maybe he still holds sway? I don't know.
I do know he was at one time funded by a human microchip company. Kind of tells you a lot right there.
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 1, 2011 21:47:00 GMT -6
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Post by gk on Dec 6, 2011 8:47:01 GMT -6
WHAT? 82% of Tea People like Newt but only 27% like Ron Paul? www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/12/05/_82_percent_of_tea_partiers_love_newt.htmlThis is why the TP is dumb. It's not racist like some lefties say, that's a red herring. But it is really, really stupid. I repeat, Newt Gingrich has a +55 favorable rating over Ron Paul among Tea Party people, and +24 over the second guy on the list (Mitt Romney! Ha!).
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Post by fatmenace on Dec 6, 2011 9:42:36 GMT -6
The tea party was a legitimate movement for maybe four months. Then it became a conservative movement full of idiot republicans.
I'll credit them for getting a few people elected that may not have otherwise, but as a movement I rank them slightly above OWS.
Liking Newt just proves this for me.
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